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Josh Ozersky Offers “Idiots” Fill Ins for Pappy Van Winkle

Esquire MagazineI admit it. I love to read Esquire magazine. The edginess and yes, the women ain’t bad either. But, I’m happily married so I like the writing best — especially the articles on drinking bourbon.

Charles Pierce is always interesting as well. I don’t agree with a lot of what he says, but he’s passionate and thought provoking.  In the end, that’s the best compliment I can give to a writer of any kind. Whether I agree or not I keep reading and I…THINK.

Josh Ozersky’s article about finding alternatives to Pappy Van Winkle is a good read. My favorite quote:

“But there is another answer, too, which we hinted at, but will now further explain: You need to find something else — something as similar as possible. Which is problematic.”

When I first started my Pappy journey I was a bourbon neophyte and latched onto the best idea I found. I am a reader and gravitated to Pappy because a talented writer (Wright Thompson) wrote a damn good article about it. He also wrote one about an old bottle of Jim Beam.

It started my pursuit and then when I found it — it more than met expectations. But I had tried so few bourbons at that point. I was, as I said before, not much of a connoisseur.

Ozersky is right. There are a lot of “damn good” bourbons — at least close, if not as good as Pappy Van Winkle — so don’t fret if you can’t find the big kahuna. Just be glad you saved a few bucks and enjoy some of the other great bourbons out there.

Ozersky names a few:

  • Maker’s 46

  • W.L. Weller 12 YR

  • Jefferson’s Presidential Select 18 YR (from 4 years ago)

  • Four Roses Single Barrel

  • William Larue Weller

He notes that W.L. Weller is the closest (according to Julian Van Winkle 7 Year Weller) or William Larue, then Jefferson’s as it has some of the same mash bill and then Maker’s 46 (which is merely wheated) and Four Roses Single Barrel if you can’t find those.

“Of the original lot of Pappy produced in the twilight of the Stitzer-Weller, before it closed in 1992, most of what remains was snatched up by the Van Winkle family, and now constitutes Pappy 23. But the Van Winkle family didn’t get all the juice; some made its way into the hands of the resourceful Trey Zoeller, the founder of Jefferson’s, who sold it as Jefferson’s Presidential Select 17- and 18-year-old four years ago. Some of those bottles are available on the gray market for a high sum indeed, but nothing compared to black-market Pappy Van Winkle 23-year-old.”

I, myself, am a Weller Special Reserve 7 Year drinker (everyday bourbon) it resembles Pappy Van Winkle though aged at a lower clip. A drop of water and it’s worth much more than it’s $12.99 price tag.

Read Ozersky’s article here.

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When You Can Find (Maybe) a Taste of Pappy Van Winkle – 2014

Pappy Van Winkle BourbonSummer’s here — at least in Savannah, GA — and the living is easy. But, it’s already hot and humid as hell.  And speaking of what’s hot, many bourbon lovers and Pappy Van Winkle chasers are starting to ask when they can at least try to get their hands (and lips) on the best bourbon in the world.

Fall, Football and Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon
Once upon a time, Old Rip Van Winkle used to split the Pappy release between Spring and Fall. However, that ended last year as the distillery combined the Spring and Fall release into a larger Fall distribution. Now the only time you have a shot to get it is during the college football year.  (Can’t wait for that either). No matter, Pappy doesn’t last long anyway. Maybe 24 hours. So you know pretty fast whether you’re one of the lucky ones.

How Pappy Is Distributed
Some stores make the Pappy Van Winkle release a huge event with lines down the street, offering it on a “first come, first served” basis or via a true lottery – not just a waiting list. Others reserve it for their best customers or a have a waiting list. A few may offer presales, but this is hard to do, as most stores don’t know their allotment until the day the Pappy Van Winkle shows up.

Times and Dates May Vary
Most reliable sources anticipate that Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon will start arriving in October at the earliest and depending on your state by November or even December. These projections are typically based on last year’s arrival so your local liquor store can give you a decent, but not exact estimate. Here’s an example of how the release played out last year as a guide. Thanks to for tracking it. They should do so again this year so bookmark the link.

How to Get Some
You should also ask the stores how they allot Pappy Van Winkle. Most will have a long-standing waiting list, save it for their best customers, or will tell you they can’t get it (even if they can) so you’ll leave them alone. In other words, it’s a crapshoot and it keeps getting harder as the Pappy Mania seems to be in full hysteria phase at the moment.

Your best bet is to find a store that offers it on a first come, first served basis  or a real lottery. Caveat: You’ll need to fortify yourself (with another bourbon) for the wait. It may take hours or days so I hope you enjoy camping in liquor store parking lots. Otherwise, try and find a “mom and pop” store off the beaten path. One that has been around for a while, preferably in Kentucky if you have a summer road trip planned. Or, if you’re really desperate and have lots of money to blow, you can check out the secondary market and pay about 10 times retail.

If you’re not sure you want to plop down that much cash before you taste it check out the Pappy List for locations (bars) that offer it by the pour. It won’t be cheap, but it’s damn good and every bourbon lover — even if you’re new to the party — should try it at least once.

Good Luck and Cheers
The unfortunate truth is there’s a lot of fluff in the market place right now. Pappy lovers have to contend with aggressive entrepreneurial types, status seekers, and bourbon dabblers. However, some liquor stores still try and get the gold standard of bourbon into the hands and mouths of true bourbon appreciators. God bless the good guys.

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Why Pappy Van Winkle Hysteria is Good for Bourbon

  — Or How Pappy Introduced Me to the Best Damn Spirit

I discovered Pappy Van Winkle shortly after I found Bourbon.

Walker Percy
Walker Percy

Walker Percy’s essay on the grand elixir got me going and Wright Thompson’s piece on the best bourbon in the world sent me on a quest for the Holy Grail of the brown stuff.

Wright Thompson Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon

I love to read and Percy’s literature is all about the search for (God?) something and drinking bourbon.

“What is the nature of the search? you ask. The search is what anyone would undertake if he were not sunk in the everydayness of his own life. To become aware of the search is to be onto something. Not to be onto something is to be in despair.”
― Walker PercyThe Moviegoer

But most of his characters also like a little (or a lot) of bourbon now and again. My sources tell me Walker did too.

Finding It

I guess it was less than a year after I started my search that I found some. I just put my name on the list at the best liquor store in Savannah and got a call around November. They had some 12-year and I bought it. Hell, I didn’t even really know the difference between 12- and 15- and 20- and 23-year yet. I was still a bourbon newbie.

However, I did notice it was smooth and better than anything else I’d had so far.  That was not saying a lot as it was probably the first time I spent over $50 on a fifth of bourbon. Maybe it was the hype, the expectation, or probably the fact that despite all the hoopla — Pappy really is a damn good bourbon.

Setting Out for More

Whatever the driver of my obsession, I wanted more.  And again, a year later I found it. This time 20-year and I knew enough about bourbon at this point to know it was different and better than most of the stuff out there. It was also a first as I laid down $136.88 to buy the bottle — again the most I’d ever spent.

I will say that of all the spirits I’ve tried, bourbon is my favorite. Scotch is next and then the white stuff if it’s all there is. But none of the white stuff has the character or depth of the brown stuff.

W.L. Weller, Elmer T. Lee, Buffalo Trace, Four Roses

My local watering hole can barely keep WL Weller, which is reportedly the closet thing to  Pappy at about 1/10 the cost. This tells me Pappy hysteria is trickling down and the Pappyheads are discovering it. Oh well, there’s still Buffalo Trace, Four Roses — I like Small Batch better than Singel Barrel and hell if you’re on a budget Yellow Label does just fine. My preference is 90 proof and above though. 

Haven’t seen it in a while, but Elmer T. Lee is a bargain at $30 a bottle. If you have less than $15 you can still get a nice taste with Evan Williams Black — better than both Jim Beam and Jack Daniel’s IMHO.

If You Can’t Find Pappy Still A Lot of Damn Good Bourbon

So here is the moral of the story: Instead of spending thousands on the secondary (black) market enjoy the other stuff  until Pappy Mania ends. There’s a helluva a lot of tasty stuff out there — and it’s fun to try something new — and you can do a lot of taste tests for the cost of a black market bottle of Pappy.

There will be a day for true Pappy lovers. The mania will end, crashing like’s did in 1999-2000. And there’ll be more than enough of the famous Pappy on the shelves to sip with friends and chuckle about the crazy ole days when Pappy ruled the bourbon universe.

Until then, sample, discover what you like best, and enjoy it. In the end, it’s not about Pappy, which is a damn good bourbon, but bourbon, which is the best damn spirit.

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